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…money and honour have no attraction for them; good men do not wish to be openly demanding payment for governing and so to get the name of hirelings, nor by secretly helping themselves out of the public revenues to get the name of thieves. And not being ambitious they do not care about honour. Wherefore necessity must be laid upon them, and they must be induced to serve from the fear of punishment. And this, as I imagine, is the reason why the forwardness to take office, instead of waiting to be compelled, has been deemed dishonourable. Now the worst part of the punishment is that he who refuses to rule is liable to be ruled by one who is worse than himself. And the fear of this, as I conceive, induces the good to take office, not because they would, but because they cannot help — not under the idea that they are going to have any benefit or enjoyment themselves, but as a necessity, and because they are not able to commit the task of ruling to any one who is better than themselves, or indeed as good. For there is reason to think that if a city were composed entirely of good men, then to avoid office would be as much an object of contention as to obtain office is at present…


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Democracy was at last overthrown by a junta known as the Thirty Tyrants led by Plato's relative Critias who had been a friend of Socrates. On the one hand he drew a clear line between human ignorance and ideal knowledge; on the other Plato's Symposium (Diotima's Speech) and Republic (Allegory of the Cave) describe a method for ascending to wisdom. In 406 he was a member of the Boule and his tribe the Antiochis held the Prytany on the day the Generals of the Battle of Arginusae who abandoned the slain and the survivors of foundered ships to pursue the defeated Spartan navy were discussed.

It is Plato's Socrates that also made important and lasting contributions to the fields of epistemology and logic and the influence of his ideas and approach remains strong in providing a foundation for much western philosophy that followed. 469 BC – 399 BC) was a classical Greek Athenian philosopher. Through his portrayal in Plato's dialogues Socrates has become renowned for his contribution to the field of ethics and it is this Platonic Socrates who also lends his name to the concepts of Socratic irony and the Socratic method or elenchus.

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